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Offline Resident666

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Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« on: March 18, 2024, 01:55:28 AM »
In my entire life as an L2 player, I have never seen such a small difference between the attack speed of these classes. The Elf has always been far superior to the Dark Elf. It is clear that this has been changed. In this case, the Silver Ranger class was ruined. I made a point of doing the test, both at level 62, archer buff from the npc, and set plated, with Bow of Peril, without Dye. The elf got 748 and the Dark Elf got 741. It's too lazy to post server errors here, there are so many.

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2024, 10:59:52 AM »
In my entire life as an L2 player, I have never seen such a small difference between the attack speed of these classes. The Elf has always been far superior to the Dark Elf. It is clear that this has been changed. In this case, the Silver Ranger class was ruined. I made a point of doing the test, both at level 62, archer buff from the npc, and set plated, with Bow of Peril, without Dye. The elf got 748 and the Dark Elf got 741. It's too lazy to post server errors here, there are so many.
Correct me if im wrong.
Elf archer has about +2 dex and -2 str compared with delf.
Later each class gets a class specific selfbuff, delf gets +20% crit.dmg and -10% atk.spd while elf gets +20% atk.spd and -50% range.
Especially in H5 client elf archer is considered as support class with a bit of dmg due to its passive which gives 15% atk.spd to pt when triggered.
Overall in 1v1 situations with the correct build its the best of all archers but in mass pvp/pt situations just meh.
Hope that helped.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2024, 09:10:10 PM by kavv »

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2024, 04:23:05 PM »
KAVV FOLLOWING YOUR LINE OF THOUGHT IF THE SILVER RANGER IS A SUPPORT CLASS DUE TO HIS SKILL LVL 79 - "passive which gives 15% atk.spd to pt" THE DARK ELF IS A MAGE CLASS DUE TO HIS SKILL LVL 79 - "When attacked, user's skill Casting Spd. is decreased by 15% and MP consumption is decreased by 5% for 1 minute"-. AND HAVING SAID THAT, WHY DOES THE TWO CLASSES HAVE THE SAME ATTACK SPEED? WOULD THIS BE A CLASS EDITING PROBLEM FAVORING THE DARK ELF CLASS?

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2024, 07:29:57 PM »
I compared the classes and in Viserion these are the base attributes of the elven scout, human roge and assassin classes. in the first class these are the results

human roge- str- 40 dex- 30 con- 43
elven scoult- str- 36 Dex- 35 con- 36
ASSASSIN- str- 41 Dex- 34 Con- 32

 
The difference is not two points Dex and STR  :-X

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2024, 09:13:02 PM »
I compared the classes and in Viserion these are the base attributes of the elven scout, human roge and assassin classes. in the first class these are the results

human roge- str- 40 dex- 30 con- 43
elven scoult- str- 36 Dex- 35 con- 36
ASSASSIN- str- 41 Dex- 34 Con- 32

 
The difference is not two points Dex and STR  :-X
Yeap my bad, -5str +1dex +4con. Point remains.

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2024, 09:30:43 PM »
OF COURSE, NOW THAT I HAVE PROVEN THAT THE CLASS YOU PLAY AND DEFEND IS BAD EDITED, YOU ADMIT THE MISTAKE BECAUSE NEVER IN THIS LIFE RHANTON RANGER HAS A DIFFERENCE OF 1 DEX AND 5 STR, I WILL SEARCH ON THE INTERNET FOR THE BASIC POINTS IN THE OFFICIAL H5 AND POST HERE AGAIN AND I HOPE MAXIMUS BALANCES THE CLASSES PROPERLY BECAUSE PHANTON RANGER WITH SILVER RANGER SPEED ATTACK DOES NOT EXIST.

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2024, 09:45:20 PM »
Thank y "THC". My main has always been Moonlight, but here I didn't want to play with the class because of this error. In this case, the class that is wrong is the Elves, which should have more attack speed. So much so that he never needed to do a "Haste" certification. And there is no such thing as a support archer. Tell me, what support skill does the class have? And regardless of the skills it has, Moonlight has always been much superior in attack speed, but here the difference is less than 10 points. With just 1 in DEX the Dark Elf equals, and that's not right. I'll make a point of installing other servers to make more comparisons, and I'll post them here.

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2024, 01:00:22 AM »
is rigth and the big problem is not only atack speed, but all others atributs influenced by dex ,critical rate,skill critical rate,acuracy and othersand this  alied with big str givin greater p atack and critical power in this server phanton ranger is a automatic shotgun with elongated comb and laser sight!

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2024, 11:13:21 PM »
I took liberty to test GS on other radom 5 pvp servers - from top 50 hopzone.

Findings - GS here it's nerfed in positive way (wonder why)
On all (I MEAN ALL) with same gear 1 to 1 (like set 16 weapon 16 same jewls and clan skilz) here GS have 1350 more patck than ALL other servers ...

BTW with 0 buffs!

PRO!!!! Play chars made just for group of people

Quick tip: switch to necro!!!!! - next big think

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2024, 11:46:52 PM »
hello

Will test and see the class dmg.

thx

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2024, 06:16:23 AM »
To test? What do you mean? Test DMG? Any sanity there?

Do you even have any sane ideea about what are you talking?

Duuuude, any arcer should to TOP 450 - 600 crit dmg on a tank with deflect arrow (maybe that ... idk) and with windstorm dmg drops to 350 tops ...

I mean, you know ... (with respects), this is my last comment ever here!
« Last Edit: March 20, 2024, 06:31:30 AM by Luka »

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2024, 03:34:13 PM »
Its like you guys started L2 today its embarashing...
Elf archer is the strongest archer in 1v1s and if you wanted to argue on something you should be asking for its nerf.
The fact that you dont know how to build or buff doesnt mean a class is strong or weak.
MS is meant to be played w/o auto atks and you come here arguing about its atk speed...

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Re: Silver Ranger x Phanton Ranger
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2024, 03:53:24 PM »
kavv, you're coming here to defend the class you play, that's it. And the "Dark Elf" may be better in your opinion, but it is not unanimous. And another, you were wrong in previous comments, and you are wrong again. You must have started at L2 yesterday, to make so many mistakes and say that there is archer support. Haha ha  ;D