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Offline josto

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Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« on: March 07, 2021, 04:08:30 PM »
Hi,

I dont want this topic to be hate or some sort of flame on GM Cezar
I just want to represent my observations with his acting and handling of issues, people, and situations on the server. (chat,ppl, announcement)

My experience is only from today 7.3 and It is about Global Chat spam and of banchat people and continuing on announcement spam from GM.

Long story short
- people are spamming stupid stuff in the Global
- people are blaming and swearing to each other in the chat
- threatening GM with Feedback o Cezar to Maximus and threatening server with DDos

End result
- banchat couple of ppl
- lot of people angry in the global
- spamming even more

GM Cezar reactions?
- banchat people for just saying 2 sentences
- spamming Announcement
- i did not really understand what he was writing due to " faulty"  english ?
- really bad judgment of actions in the global
- telling with the Announcement that he is looking at people conversations

= He could definitely stop a global chat at the start and chatban people spamming or threatening and therefore wrote them personally.
= stopping all the spam and hustle at the start with any continuing in the global

I believe lot of people were saying and writing feedback to Maximus about this and previous actions of Cezar around this.

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2021, 04:31:03 PM »
Hello,

Well we all know why this post was made, I will ask to avoid any kind of hate just good arguments and your personal opinion.

Max

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2021, 04:50:20 PM »
What Cezar did was wrong! Elpepe is war for me and i hate his spamms but he should not get chatban for what he did! in sme measure his shots are fun and i have seen 100 worst language that should get ban and didnt! from what i see this is a personal vendetta, Gm Cezar acted impulsive and not right! bad call from gm cezar as long with very bad conduct from a gm regarding this problem!

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2021, 09:06:12 PM »
 cezar is a useless gm...

when we were asking in global when the quiz will be fixed, he asking whats wrong with the quiz and to mail a gm

that bug exists since start of server and reported million of times, so i dont know what he is doing here to be honnoust

about chatban i agree, zaddri offending ppl mothers and worse in global and a few others do same and they dont get nothing at all...


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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2021, 11:08:49 AM »
What Cezar did was wrong! Elpepe is war for me and i hate his spamms but he should not get chatban for what he did! in sme measure his shots are fun and i have seen 100 worst language that should get ban and didnt! from what i see this is a personal vendetta, Gm Cezar acted impulsive and not right! bad call from gm cezar as long with very bad conduct from a gm regarding this problem!
Acording to servers rules both flaming and spamming are not allowed.
Flaming is part of the game and its between the 2 parties to decide if they get offended so they can report eachother when limits are overpassed.
Spamming on the other hand is not targeting 1 party, it just harms the whole server chat.
Elpepe spammed for no reason, daily over 100 msges, and all as the same macro. He got so many pms from players to stop that spam, so many blocks and he continued spamming his macro. He got GM-Admin warnings and he still continued. He clearly doesnt care about this community.
Personal opinion: everyone can type whatever he wants as long as it doesnt harm the server we are playing.
Imo chatban for occasions like this one is well deserved and it should have happened way sooner.

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2021, 02:22:41 PM »
we are not deciding or commenting on El Pepe comments and macro - even if it was the start of everything
But if GM Cezar was acting properly, if the reaction was according to a problem and issue or if the reaction was in proper time response.
In my opinion, stated above - he acted poorly, did not handle the situation, and a lot of stuff could be done different to maintain chat and server Sanity - in a proper way

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2021, 05:47:05 PM »
Hello,

Well we all know why this post was made, I will ask to avoid any kind of hate just good arguments and your personal opinion.

Max

Hello Maximus,

The [GM]Cezar made a huge mistakes. I don't know his age or his experience as Game Master so I judge from what I saw.
I have more than 10 print screens about his Announcements to proove my words.

Mistake #1 He banned a player for spamming, there is a rule about it yes and i understand that. But, and here is the mistake, The player that got banned didn't even was talking the time that he got banned. When a player is spamming warn him or even chat ban him at the period that he is doing the spamm not 3-4 days after as Cezar said.
There were other players that was spamming in different languages but not the player that got the ban and the warnings in the Announcements.

Mistake #2 He said directly to all players that he is sneaking in their chats and he knows what they are talking about.
In my opionion (even if he has the authority to do such thing) he should't sneakin in pms/clan/ally chat.
He should care what ppl are talking in global chats, hero voices, all chats, trade chats.
He could use keywords also about what ppl saying in pms, ally chat, and clan chat but only for his name or yours, since players also in my opinion, should respect the Game Master and Administrator and don't flame him in any chat.
Having access in ally, clan, pms chat and sneaking on them I believe its "illegal" (couldn't find a better word) and can lead from leaking information to whatever you can think.
Also even if he wants to check everything, and even if we say that the Game Master is not also a player (something that I don't believe that its true), even then he shouldn't announce his actions.

Mistake #3 and pretty big! He banned players because they judged his action! Also he did that 10 minutes before Antharas spawn! And i explain...
Players when they saw that he was spamming in Announcements things that had no logic, they started saying to him that he is doing mistakes. Personaly I pmed him told him to stop and tryed to come in contact with you as you saw.
So Cezar lost control and start ban players without any reason. Chat bans all over, chat bans that 20-30 mins after he took back (that shows us that was wrong action).

Mistake #4 His judgement was all wrong. Things like:
"stop QQ to me or I will do big pause on chat, I am tired" "I was so close to unban but the X player said something so I will ban again" "I chat ban a lot of mins if I have provoke from 1 player" "Go on ddos the server" (this one I was like "really dude?" you are talking to Announcements by provoking players to DDOS attack on the server?)

Also chatting in global chat with a language that was not English.
There were some pms to me directly also that i don't really wanna talk about them.

All that leads me to an opinion that [GM]Cezar should be removed from the GM team. Ofc that is only my opinion and I am not the guy who will decide about it. But for sure he shows to us that he can not handle situations.

Regards,
RoraN.



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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2021, 07:15:51 PM »
Did he really said he check all possible chats?

Wtf is this? Soviet server? Cezar wannabe kgb?


I think there are better things to do in this server like fixing actual bugs instead of spying on ppl

Anyway i warned the clan i play in to chat communicate only in discord and ts from now on

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2021, 12:46:59 AM »
Did he really said he check all possible chats?

Wtf is this? Soviet server? Cezar wannabe kgb?


I think there are better things to do in this server like fixing actual bugs instead of spying on ppl

Anyway i warned the clan i play in to chat communicate only in discord and ts from now on

Cezar is a Game Master he can not fix bugs and things. His privileges have a limit.
Yes he said what I said and as I said I have printscreens to proove myself.
I don't believe that his willings are bad, but I believe that his experience is low and thats all.

Regards,
RoraN.

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2021, 06:27:51 AM »
what really happened: some players started to spam on chat EL PEPE THE DADDY for like no reason.Cezar 1st warned them to stop spamming and they still continued, so GM chatbanned couple of them. Next thing you know everyone started to cry why Cezar did that. Like come on, you do stupid shit, get penalty and you start crying that Cezar shouldnt have done it? Wheres the logic in that.

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2021, 08:13:43 AM »
Quote
what really happened: some players started to spam on chat EL PEPE THE DADDY for like no reason.Cezar 1st warned them to stop spamming and they still continued, so GM chatbanned couple of them. Next thing you know everyone started to cry why Cezar did that. Like come on, you do stupid shit, get penalty and you start crying that Cezar shouldnt have done it? Wheres the logic in that.
You are basically simplifiyng things to the state that
- they spammed El Pepe
- Cezar chatbanned them
- all server got crazy
and ?
and afterward Cezar did not do anything, wrote exactly what Roran was mentioning in the chat about
- stalking people
- asking them to continue
- writing in announcement - spamming it, writing stupid stuff there
- like "continue and I will ban you ass well , Trust me " " qq more and will chatban you too"

That is a mature behaviour write ?
He did total opposite of what he should be doing
- global is for chat and no +trade ?
- global other language than English ?
- spamming global ?
All of this should be chatban, jail or global turned off
NOT spamming with announcement and writing in it that " continue I will ban you too, trust me"  or letting people flame in the global like crazy In the 1 place -

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2021, 09:41:44 AM »
Turn off global chat, all your problems solved :)

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2021, 11:35:58 AM »
Turn off global chat, all your problems solved :)

+1 but we know this will never happen

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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2021, 07:14:30 PM »
What about let the Global be Global chat and properly
- maintain it function
- chatban people that are using it for sell +trade
- chatban people that are spamming
- and do GM job

Global chat is not the problem but the people not obeying rules - which Is always the first rule everywhere
- it is just a game
- obey the server rules


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Re: Open Talk about Cezar - feedback
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2021, 07:43:32 AM »
Shout/Hero chat  10 second per chat