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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2021, 10:56:54 PM »
is impossible as a human to continue with this, also why insulting? you broke 999 times the server rules this is the reason he chatban you... stop and think, that guy did this on purpose, why is so hard to understand?

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2021, 11:08:50 PM »
is impossible as a human to continue with this, also why insulting? you broke 999 times the server rules this is the reason he chatban you... stop and think, that guy did this on purpose, why is so hard to understand?

I think Maximus will read all this and understand that it was you ... what you did ... and you talk about insulting? You insulted me that I am a child and others ... I do not know how you can continue the subject and not admit your failures ... accept your failures ...

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2021, 11:12:04 PM »
I removed your ban and the other guy, pls do NOT insult him is NOT ok!

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2021, 11:17:00 PM »
I removed your ban and the other guy, pls do NOT insult him is NOT ok!

you are maximus ... then do something with mayito .. ban 2 months but do something .. if you don't want to realize gmcezar at least do something with mayito .. you will lose many people max ... a lot

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2021, 11:17:22 PM »
so? how are things nothing happened?

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2021, 11:21:20 PM »
so? how are things nothing happened?

Ban mayito 2 months and nobody else talks about it ... do you want that? otherwise we will continue with the topic ... this will not remain so ...

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2021, 11:49:55 PM »
Leaving aside the whole screen shot issue with Cezar which true or not can be put aside for a moment!
Lets focus on his behavior towards people, including the way he Speaks and answers to people, his threats in private chat, his name calling for players etc!
I never liked him for various reasons which im not gonna go into right now!
People have opinions, they can express their opinions as long as they do not curse  or use shitty words!
If u are oversensitive then u have no business working with people.
Im gonna take myself as an example!
Since this server started i have constantly tried to help Maximus by testing bugs, reporting bugs,looking for bugs, unfair game play, unfair behavior etc. (Maximus can confirm this).
I have stated my opinion regarding Cezar , by telling him that i think he dosent really make a difference on the server and that in my opinion he should pack up his suitcase and leave us be
He then messaged me explaining how i am wrong and bla bla and i should be careful cuz i migh get a really bad chat ban for this! i told him that i constantly keep in touch with maximus and that if he knew who i was he would know im trying to help as much as i can. He then called me some idiotic name in Romanian. I then just told him to spare me the bullshit and i ignored the whole deal!
Yesterday after this whole screen shot deal started i saw he was issuing threats to people not only on global chat but also in PM.
I said that he chats bans people as he wishes and again told him he is a bag Gm in my opinion!
He proceeded to chat ban and jail my characters. I pm  him after this and asked him if he was stupid!
I got banned after this! I expected it to be honest.
Cezar u chat ban people for telling u their opinion about u, which in my minds makes u sound like a crying pussy!
When u were told a while back that a woman from the server [JoMalone] was called a whore by another player  u did absolutely nothing!
So pls cut the crap about u being the hand of justice in the server because i stand by my opinion , As a GM INGAME U ARE WORTHLES! I have not heard a single person say something good about u! Furthermore i know a few people in this game old enough to be your grandparents whom u talked bad to. So loose the attitude or pack your shit and leave us be.
Maximus never spoke to us the way you did! So pls do us all a favor and teleport to another Village!

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #52 on: May 01, 2021, 12:54:31 AM »
Leaving aside the whole screen shot issue with Cezar which true or not can be put aside for a moment!
Lets focus on his behavior towards people, including the way he Speaks and answers to people, his threats in private chat, his name calling for players etc!
I never liked him for various reasons which im not gonna go into right now!
People have opinions, they can express their opinions as long as they do not curse  or use shitty words!
If u are oversensitive then u have no business working with people.
Im gonna take myself as an example!
Since this server started i have constantly tried to help Maximus by testing bugs, reporting bugs,looking for bugs, unfair game play, unfair behavior etc. (Maximus can confirm this).
I have stated my opinion regarding Cezar , by telling him that i think he dosent really make a difference on the server and that in my opinion he should pack up his suitcase and leave us be
He then messaged me explaining how i am wrong and bla bla and i should be careful cuz i migh get a really bad chat ban for this! i told him that i constantly keep in touch with maximus and that if he knew who i was he would know im trying to help as much as i can. He then called me some idiotic name in Romanian. I then just told him to spare me the bullshit and i ignored the whole deal!
Yesterday after this whole screen shot deal started i saw he was issuing threats to people not only on global chat but also in PM.
I said that he chats bans people as he wishes and again told him he is a bag Gm in my opinion!
He proceeded to chat ban and jail my characters. I pm  him after this and asked him if he was stupid!
I got banned after this! I expected it to be honest.
Cezar u chat ban people for telling u their opinion about u, which in my minds makes u sound like a crying pussy!
When u were told a while back that a woman from the server [JoMalone] was called a whore by another player  u did absolutely nothing!
So pls cut the crap about u being the hand of justice in the server because i stand by my opinion , As a GM INGAME U ARE WORTHLES! I have not heard a single person say something good about u! Furthermore i know a few people in this game old enough to be your grandparents whom u talked bad to. So loose the attitude or pack your shit and leave us be.
Maximus never spoke to us the way you did! So pls do us all a favor and teleport to another Village!


i agree with u a 100%

Cezar u are useless for the server... u play here hitler and stalin on server, reading ppl chats, jailing banning them if u dont like them and u are selective...

u cant fix nothing u cant help nobody with their problems, u only cause more problems instead of assisting maximus u only create more drama and problems...

about jomalon her experience i had the same with ppl offending my mother and cezar not doing anything about it...

Maximus i dont know why u make this kind of type of persons GM...
i thought u would have learned from the Morfinel story, i guess not

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2021, 01:41:49 AM »
Haras,i dont have nothing to hide! that SS you post is from that time when i ask ElPepe,to stop spam with Macros on all with target macro or with his personal msg,all over...player want to read chat ,to see trivia or events...not his personal macros "Elpepe ......"....i chatban then him first because he didnt stop,after that i chatban all who support him doing same think.(i ask him nicely to stop,but he dont want,wasnt a big drama his chatban 5 min,on other server he was directly banned few minutes because he ignore GM)


And like i said ...i cant enchant items or skills or others stuffs... i helped players with what i can...when i didnt have privil to help them on that problem,i ask them to mail to Maximus(just all)...i know when i chatban or ban...Max knows too...can see it and on servers logs...

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2021, 01:58:32 AM »
i wanna make it clear that it wasnt me Haras who posted that SS . but still doesnt change the reason why we posted it .. 1st of all that SS has nothing to do with what happend that time when you were chatbanning ppl cause they were spamming Elpepe the dady etc. That SS is from few days ago when a guy was even insulting my mother and still i wasnt replay to him with insults just used a word sperma and i got the chatban .. i can still accept it! After i got unbann i just reply for Fun thanks for Chatban and you chatbanned me again and then exept that , that lets say it was acceptable (thats wasnt) you pmed me by saying to me Dont QQ about chatban.. and then you are looking from others to saw some respect at you? even if the GM speaks in a way like that ,....what you you will exept from single players ? and at the end i am not  your friend or someone that has give you the right to speak to me in a way like that .. i know that this server is free use but that doesnt me everyone can speak
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to me like that .. or i should accept everything without reacting.

Kind regards Haras

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2021, 10:07:02 AM »
cezar you are the best gm, keep up the good work and ignore the haters !!! ;D ;D

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2021, 10:40:44 AM »
nice drama xD i dont believe guys :D you still playing on this soooo unbalanced server ever with unactive gms and Max ? awesome :D you know how server work so stop cry now on forum :) play and shut up or leave :)

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2021, 11:32:02 AM »
I haven`t posted on this forum for some time now, but i`ll give my two cents here.

1. There should be a level of mutual respect between GMs and players, and the GM should be the mature figure in this dynamic, while accepting that the player can act childish, and he (the GM) should act accordingly. This does not absolve the player of wrongdoings which i`ll come to later. That means that the authority figure should have understanding, patience, forgiveness, besides the right moral code to interact with, let`s say, not the most mature aspects of humanity who play this game.

2. VENANDIs (ELPEPEs) (as you see i`ve written in CAPS as he prefers it this way) behavior is fully emotional, and as he lacks the maturity to balance his mental and emotional side, you have the above four pages now of chat. Curses, insults, or use of any aggressive or bad language should be addressed with the right course of action, and explained as such as to why it was done. Communication is always the key. However the opportunity should be given for one to redeem himself. Meaning, no permanent solution, but a temporary one. How many temporary ones? And when will the permanent one come? That is a dance that needs to be danced by the parties involved.

3. People should learn not to take insults personally. Even if they are addressed not only to yourself, but to your loved ones. What negative practical use comes of a spoken word, which you ignore, or better yet, return, not in the same way, but in a witty and playful manner? Isn`t it more fun to leave the one making that remark speechless? Their pleasure comes from you being affected by those words. Trying to convey their anger/frustration/negative emotion to you by expressing words, and feeling at ease because you are in the same state as they are. Don`t give them that satisfaction. Grow beyond it.

4. The screenshots with party and chat, offer very little, and leave much for supposition, which isn`t constructive, and hurts the server. I myself was in a party with GMs for various reasons: chat, testing stuff, fixing bugs. It isn`t uncommon. However, the thing i don`t get is the video. How can a player survive 450-1500 hits/person, while being hit from 2 bows for 15 sec, and 1 mage that doesn`t count that much but still.

5. In closing, i would like to say that even if players may not like one player or another, in this case venandi, what happens to one today may happen to another tomorrow. Some may not like his spam, his constant macros, caps, use of non english language while english is being spoken, however i for one, like him as he is. But i have a thing for quirky behavior. I like active people on the chat as long as they are not overtly rude/aggressive. I find these characters bring flavor to a server. You can /ignorethemforlife but you`ll miss out on things that might brighten your day. He should be reprimanded, but not in a permanent way. It would be a shame.

My advice to both parties involved...grow from this incident and make better choices next time. Be well.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2021, 12:56:40 PM by Gaia »

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2021, 12:18:54 PM »
My advice to both parties involved...grow from this incident and make batter choices next time. Be well.
Cezar has proven he is not "growing" I still dont get why hes in a position of power showing that attitude repeatedly...

2 months passed since his last incident and he didnt change a bit. (http://l2viserion.com/forum/index.php?topic=14590.0)

Just check how he replies with insults on this topic, this behavior is unacceptable. Elpepe should be punished and thats out of question but that doesnt give the right to a GM to insult him. ("you are a kid,so you accept it")

In less that a week he managed to misstreat kobeb / haras / elpepe / xxl and who knows how many more.
Does the help he offers balance that behavior for you maximus?

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2021, 12:32:38 PM »
i m like 99% sure that Cezar is Morfinel its the same type of douchebag...