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Offline Ancano

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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2021, 01:54:07 PM »
I haven`t posted on this forum for some time now, but i`ll give my two cents here.

1. There should be a level of mutual respect between GMs and players, and the GM should be the mature figure in this dynamic, while accepting that the player can act childish, and he (the GM) should act accordingly. This does not absolve the player of wrongdoings which i`ll come to later. That means that the authority figure should have understanding, patience, forgiveness, besides the right moral code to interact with, let`s say, not the most mature aspects of humanity who play this game.

2. VENANDIs (ELPEPEs) (as you see i`ve written in CAPS as he prefers it this way) behavior is fully emotional, and as he lacks the maturity to balance his mental and emotional side, you have the above four pages now of chat. Curses, insults, or use of any aggressive or bad language should be addressed with the right course of action, and explained as such as to why it was done. Communication is always the key. However the opportunity should be given for one to redeem himself. Meaning, no permanent solution, but a temporary one. How many temporary ones? And when will the permanent one come? That is a dance that needs to be danced by the parties involved.

3. People should learn not to take insults personally. Even if they are addressed not only to yourself, but to your loved ones. What negative practical use comes of a spoken word, which you ignore, or better yet, return, not in the same way, but in a witty and playful manner? Isn`t it more fun to leave the one making that remark speechless? Their pleasure comes from you being affected by those words. Trying to convey their anger/frustration/negative emotion to you by expressing words, and feeling at ease because you are in the same state as they are. Don`t give them that satisfaction. Grow beyond it.

4. The screenshots with party and chat, offer very little, and leave much for supposition, which isn`t constructive, and hurts the server. I myself was in a party with GMs for various reasons: chat, testing stuff, fixing bugs. It isn`t uncommon. However, the thing i don`t get is the video. How can a player survive 450-1500 hits/person, while being hit from 2 bows for 15 sec, and 1 mage that doesn`t count that much but still.

5. In closing, i would like to say that even if players may not like one player or another, in this case venandi, what happens to one today may happen to another tomorrow. Some may not like his spam, his constant macros, caps, use of non english language while english is being spoken, however i for one, like him as he is. But i have a thing for quirky behavior. I like active people on the chat as long as they are not overtly rude/aggressive. I find these characters bring flavor to a server. You can /ignorethemforlife but you`ll miss out on things that might brighten your day. He should be reprimanded, but not in a permanent way. It would be a shame.

My advice to both parties involved...grow from this incident and make better choices next time. Be well.

Agree 100%, especially with the first point, I couldn't have put it better myself.


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Re: [GM]Cezar
« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2021, 06:18:20 PM »
I haven`t posted on this forum for some time now, but i`ll give my two cents here.

1. There should be a level of mutual respect between GMs and players, and the GM should be the mature figure in this dynamic, while accepting that the player can act childish, and he (the GM) should act accordingly. This does not absolve the player of wrongdoings which i`ll come to later. That means that the authority figure should have understanding, patience, forgiveness, besides the right moral code to interact with, let`s say, not the most mature aspects of humanity who play this game.

2. VENANDIs (ELPEPEs) (as you see i`ve written in CAPS as he prefers it this way) behavior is fully emotional, and as he lacks the maturity to balance his mental and emotional side, you have the above four pages now of chat. Curses, insults, or use of any aggressive or bad language should be addressed with the right course of action, and explained as such as to why it was done. Communication is always the key. However the opportunity should be given for one to redeem himself. Meaning, no permanent solution, but a temporary one. How many temporary ones? And when will the permanent one come? That is a dance that needs to be danced by the parties involved.

3. People should learn not to take insults personally. Even if they are addressed not only to yourself, but to your loved ones. What negative practical use comes of a spoken word, which you ignore, or better yet, return, not in the same way, but in a witty and playful manner? Isn`t it more fun to leave the one making that remark speechless? Their pleasure comes from you being affected by those words. Trying to convey their anger/frustration/negative emotion to you by expressing words, and feeling at ease because you are in the same state as they are. Don`t give them that satisfaction. Grow beyond it.

4. The screenshots with party and chat, offer very little, and leave much for supposition, which isn`t constructive, and hurts the server. I myself was in a party with GMs for various reasons: chat, testing stuff, fixing bugs. It isn`t uncommon. However, the thing i don`t get is the video. How can a player survive 450-1500 hits/person, while being hit from 2 bows for 15 sec, and 1 mage that doesn`t count that much but still.

5. In closing, i would like to say that even if players may not like one player or another, in this case venandi, what happens to one today may happen to another tomorrow. Some may not like his spam, his constant macros, caps, use of non english language while english is being spoken, however i for one, like him as he is. But i have a thing for quirky behavior. I like active people on the chat as long as they are not overtly rude/aggressive. I find these characters bring flavor to a server. You can /ignorethemforlife but you`ll miss out on things that might brighten your day. He should be reprimanded, but not in a permanent way. It would be a shame.

My advice to both parties involved...grow from this incident and make better choices next time. Be well.


in responses...

1.- I think that giving notice of why the chat ban or the ban has to be with a reason, that is not warned and the "why" is put with a "."

2.- let's say it's like a "showman" but it's better if the talk / discussion is by wisp

3.- +1

4.- That is the point that I put in discussion and that was not paid attention. The reason for the screems / video is that at that time the player Mayito constantly fell to hit us without using REAL TARGET and no TRAP with his character vs 3 that we hit him (300 - 400) of damage with FULL items and it happened that in mode of celebration the discord showed that screen. So how can you take that? hitting him at times 3k + 1 only player of the 3 more than 1 minute and that he does not die? knowing that a Trickster does not have any kind of skill that raises his Pdef and that he can heal.
So? what is this? in nothing and to continue playing? When BUG reports have been made MANY TIMES in sieges / tw, bot reports have been sent with the action "Bot Report Button" in alt -c and the next day to see the character playing as if nothing ... many things are covered and it remains in nothing

5.- +1